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Name: Chris yard
Location: Morris, Minnesota, United States

Wednesday, April 20, 2005

Way to go girls

I'm really proud of the girls back in Winona for this one. I think issues like this are exactly what is wrong with education in America, and especially with the ways things work in Winona.

Two Winona Senior High School students, Carrie Rethlefsen and Emily Nixon, have found themselves in hot water with school officials. Why? Because after Carrie attended a performance of the play "The Vagina Monologues" last month, they wore buttons to school that read: "I [heart] My Vagina."

School leaders said the pin is inappropriate, that the discomfort it causes others trumps the girls' right to free speech. The girls disagree. And, despite repeated threats of suspension and expulsion, Rethlefsen has continued to wear her button. Their efforts have won support from other students and community members, so much so that more than 100 students have ordered T-shirts bearing "I [heart] My Vagina" for girls and "I Support Your Vagina" for boys.

"We can't really find out what is inappropriate about it," Rethlefsen said of the button she wears to raise awareness about women's issues. "I don't think banning things like that is appropriate."

Their case could become another test of whether high school students have the right to express their views in school. Charles Samuelson, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Minnesota, has offered to help the girls if they want it.

"It's political speech," he said. "And students have free speech rights at school."

Samuelson acknowledged that school officials can limit speech considered detrimental or dangerous to the school. But he said this case is similar to Tinker v. Des Moines, a 1969 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that followed a case where students were forbidden by their schools to wear black armbands to protest the Vietnam War. The court ruled that First Amendment rights are, indeed, available to teachers and students and that administrators' fear about how others might react is not enough to squelch those rights. The ACLU currently is fighting schools in Ohio and Missouri for censoring student T-shirts supporting gay rights and same sex marriage.


I've kept in contact well enough with friends back home to hear how things are going, and I definativly know that there are much bigger problems going on in our schools than something like this. I do find it strange that the schools are choosing to go after these girls while letting neo nazi ensignia on clothing go by without any problem. I know many of the people that are connected to both sides of this story. As for the school administrators, the ones that I know i have never had any sort or problem with before. They are perfectly reasonable people, and I have no idea what their logic is with this.

I'm not planning on stopping here with this one; i'm going to do what I can to spread the word about this. Students should not be threatened with expulsion for opposing violence towards women.

7 Comments:

Blogger madjon said...

This obviously goes against cultural norms and probably is distracting for at least some students. Is there not a better way that they can draw attention to womens' issues, or does it take something this drastic? Moreover, does a fight like this highlight (A) Womens' issues or (B) teenage girls wearing weird pins?

2:18 AM  
Blogger Halios said...

Madjon... 'cultural norms?' for shame, the very point is to go against cultural norms. This is a culture where a man can talk about his penis with only the slightist of negative impact on himself. Yet the moment a women says a single thing about sex, or sexual organs, she is looked at as dirty. No I say, I am proud of my penis, and I figure women should be proud of there vagina.
I am in favor of them where in the buttons for three reasons, 1. it is a mater of free speach (although schools have the right to override free speach) 2. It brings attention to womens issues. and 3. it goes against the male dominated puritanicle roots of the united states, which has done more harm to a healthy conversation about sex, and family, than any rap video. Seriosly if the radio can have songs that talk about biches and hos (which is there right) teenagers should be aloud to talk about there vagina freely. Im sure 'I heart vagina' buttons are going to lead to a much healthier discussion then words like sin, and bitches and hos.
Aaron.

5:20 AM  
Blogger madjon said...

And high school is the right place to fight this? I would not support men wearing shirts that said "I Heart My Penis" either. If you are trying to make a point, there are better ways to do it.

In response to your points:
(1) It is probably actually illegal. I can almost guarentee you that it violates sexual harassment laws which are very (too?) liberal in their definitions of sexual harrassment (essentially anything that makes someone else feel uncomfortable, including faculty!)

(2) Again, I doubt this is the most mature way it can be done. Moreover, it takes a back seat to issue #1, which tends to be brought up first (it is #1).

(3) Perhaps I am a puritancle male, but I hate music that talks about bitches, hoes, niggers, whatever, and refuse to listen to it. I do agree that there is not a healthy discussion about sex in this country but again question whether high schoolers wearing such pins really will bring that about. They come across to me as a shallow fad, not evidence of committed students.

8:51 AM  
Blogger madjon said...

OT: Thought you might find this interesting Chris. I know you've been watching Delay...

10:53 AM  
Blogger Halios said...

ill answer in reverse order.

3)well, there buttons are not as simple as a fad. Wheather it is a fad or not for them, the fad caries with it a measage. The fact that when asked to remove there buttons they continued and pushed others to do the same says that this 'fad' or issue is more to them then something the did just for laughs.
the fact that there is a fight over the issue going on in the school means there is with out a doubt a discusion going on. This discusion is more valuable then a discusion generated by a curriculem, this is because it is not the authority teaching the people, but rather the people seeking awareness for themselves.
and I will suport the right of artists to use language that i dont agree with as a mater of free speach. but i will not suport there use of language as one of my values, i do so by not buying the music. And i will not fight there use of language by saying they can't do that, but rather by asking them to think of the impact of there words.
2. I would argue that is a very mature way to go about the issue, although i will not say these girls are mature/immature, I will say that the people who wrought the Vagina Monologs and who produced the pins knew that they where creating a form of social awareness. Anybody who wheres those pins is asking others to be aware of the issue.
Anytime an outside authority tells a person what is so and what is not. What is Ok, and what is not, with out do reasoning, or opening up themselves to public questioning, can not be trusted. If you do not expose your motives then your true motives can not be known. Further more the end results of your motives can not be discussed by others. While you may believe that your way is the best way, with out opening it to questioning you can not know that it is the best way, others may see holes in the results of your beliefs you can not. I will adress this at the later.
3. In part you are right, the schools have the 'legal' right to ignore constitional rights of the students for the inssurance of a safe and the ability to teach. How ever these buttons provide a teaching moment, and do not make the enviorment less safe, nor limits the ability for teachers to teach, except perhaps the ocaisional disruption in the traditional curriculem.
As far as sexual harrasment, the law is slightly more grey because it deals with emotional feelings and the protection of individual psycological welfar. In other words harrasment laws are there to help insure people feel safe. In this climate which is increadible male dominated, I as a male am aware that my actions and what I say are in part because of the privlages awarded me by my genitialia. This fact is componded by not only the media, but also by our social dynamic and behavior. So your right a "I Heart my Penis" pin could be viewed as sexual hurrasment, because it promotes a male dominated society that has males as the sexual dominate. Wheather I agree with that law or not is irrelevent. I dont care about being PC, I care about being considerate. As a considerate person I would see that the percieved double standerd allowing women to where those pins while not allowing men to where the penis pins (ouch ! ;) ) and would rathere where one that says, my genitalia is as valuable as yours.

Now on to the part about teaching of values and the role of schools. I will not say that your puritanicle view is inhearntly wrong, infact in small comunitys it works relitively well, provided that there are elders who can be come to in a confidential setting that comunity members can use to discuss these issues, and provideing that women have a strong protection. I personaly view that to still be to opressive, but if the members of the comunity are vollintary I am fine with it.
However, I do not feel that works on the broad scale. I believe that issues of morality, should be taught in the family, or in the religios sanctuary, but not in the schools. I believe that one of the big things the schools do need to adress and for the most part do not, is personal responsibility. personal responsibility is not something that can be taught by saying 'you have to be responisble for yourself' but rather has to be learned as an experiantial thing. This experiance can not be pushed, but rather it must be taken by the participent. The only way to promote the will for people to take responsibility is to teach methods of self education, and the will to question authority. Note I said question, not distrust, they do not have to be the same.
Wheather or not the buttons themselves where the most mature way of adressing the issue of gender dynamics and discusions of sex. There continued wearing of the pins, was a very mature action. It says, these are issues that are important to me, I want to be able to talk about it freely. That is personal responsibility, that is self education.

11:07 AM  
Blogger Reggie Queequeg said...

I just heard about this, even though I live in Winona. (just moved here) I think the whole debate is pretty hilarious. As for the buttons being "distracting", she was wearing the button for A MONTH before a secretary noticed it. It obviously wasn't hampering students studies. And how much attention do you pay to buttons anyways? You read it once, and then you don't notice it any more, usually!

I am totally going to try and get one of those I Support Your Vagina shirts!

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